Kudos on your commentary on JP. Beware the younger set, especially the "Proud Boy" sort genuflect before JP as their new godling. I've never been impressed with gurus, and Jordan Petersen confirms my bias. This modest but competent professor rocketed to rock star status simply because he picked a fight with feminists on campus resulting in many anti-feminists, manly men and boyish incels worshiping JP. They think they have discovered depth when much of his spiel is simply good old fashioned common sense. He writes such advice as "stand up straight", "don't lie" and "pet cats". I can endorse such teachings but I will not fork over $ 30 for a book based on the sort of things that Grandpa will tell you for free. Good work !
Colavito frequently asserts that if another writer doesn’t mention all opposing ideas they are “completely unaware” of them. He also complains that if other writers don’t mention what all other cultures think that they are biased. This is amateurish and biased nonsense.
You are way too critical, Jason. The pair are simply laying out a very systematic plan for the future development of humanity. The replacement of haphazard cultural and evolutionary influences for a planned, masculine approach. I look forward to a future biography of either of the pair, perhaps entitled 'My Struggle', as well as a feature length film documentary on their theories, called 'Triumph of the Will'. I can hardly wait to see the results of their experiments in the New Science. Adoration of the Magi 2.0.
"I had never really listened to Peterson speak, and I had expected a dynamic presence to justify the hype. However, Peterson is not a particularly strong speaker, neither eloquent nor passionate, and I wonder what his followers see in him."
It's hard to argue against the criticism of black males for impregnating and fathering children without PAYING for it. Except all the ones who get 'borted of course. As Lyndon Johnson said back in 1965, "We'll have those niggras [he said that] voting Democrat for 200 years!"
You're commiting one huge straw man fallacy, probably because you don't have a clue what Peterson is talking about. He understands hierarchies as something more broad and deeper than simple redistribution of goods, for crying out loud. It's obvious to anybody who is willing to listen to the man without some ridiculous preconceptions about him.
It's also, a proper understanding of hierarchies. Anybody with a brain immediately laughts at the idea of unhierarchical society. How such a society would agree on something, for example? Using some magical soul sharing techniques? By rolling a dice? Yeah, right, such a society faces bright future, for sure. By democratic voting? It's a hierarchy! Ideas shared by the majority are above all others. What so hard for you to understand?
You can't even free yourself from ridiculous notions you once have read about somewhere and now you're repeating them with thinking process of a parrot!
While the Babylonians certainly had multiple creaton myths, the one you cite from your website is not a creation myth at all, but an 1888 mistranslation.
The more correct title for the Cuthean Legend is "Naram-Sin vs the enemy hordes". Its a pseudo historical epic about a king who loses divine favour when the country is over-run by barbarians (monsters in some versions, human invaders in others). It is about order and chaos and one of two texts to mention Tiamat but uses those themes completely differently to the Babylonian Creation myth. So it does show the shallowness of Peterson's over-reliance on the Enuma Elish but not in the way your use of a massively out of date public domain source would imply.
"(It is not)" Argument by assertion. Fail. The idea that one or two of one's parents were "academics" makes one's upbringing somehow privileged is just silly. Fail. "As a gay man I can't relate to proven known-good strategies for success" because everything is seen through the lens of sexuality. Fail. Anderson Cooper, Michael Tilson-Thomas, the three known gay Washington Redskins, the transsexual Navy SEAL, most average gay guys... the road goes ever onward.
Kudos on your commentary on JP. Beware the younger set, especially the "Proud Boy" sort genuflect before JP as their new godling. I've never been impressed with gurus, and Jordan Petersen confirms my bias. This modest but competent professor rocketed to rock star status simply because he picked a fight with feminists on campus resulting in many anti-feminists, manly men and boyish incels worshiping JP. They think they have discovered depth when much of his spiel is simply good old fashioned common sense. He writes such advice as "stand up straight", "don't lie" and "pet cats". I can endorse such teachings but I will not fork over $ 30 for a book based on the sort of things that Grandpa will tell you for free. Good work !
Colavito frequently asserts that if another writer doesn’t mention all opposing ideas they are “completely unaware” of them. He also complains that if other writers don’t mention what all other cultures think that they are biased. This is amateurish and biased nonsense.
If the woman's status did not matter, political marriages among nobility would not exist
Very insightful and fair critical comments. Thanks again, Jason!
You are way too critical, Jason. The pair are simply laying out a very systematic plan for the future development of humanity. The replacement of haphazard cultural and evolutionary influences for a planned, masculine approach. I look forward to a future biography of either of the pair, perhaps entitled 'My Struggle', as well as a feature length film documentary on their theories, called 'Triumph of the Will'. I can hardly wait to see the results of their experiments in the New Science. Adoration of the Magi 2.0.
https://www.deviantart.com/gottfriedhelnwein/art/Epiphany-I-Adoration-of-the-Magi-304105083
This is irony, again, for those irony disabled readers. But seriously Jason, there are better targets to dissect so laboriously.
"I had never really listened to Peterson speak, and I had expected a dynamic presence to justify the hype. However, Peterson is not a particularly strong speaker, neither eloquent nor passionate, and I wonder what his followers see in him."
Go to this YouTube video to hear an example of zero passion and eloquence - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQMvC1eUY4E
Why are they even discussing anything concerning the Black family?
It's hard to argue against the criticism of black males for impregnating and fathering children without PAYING for it. Except all the ones who get 'borted of course. As Lyndon Johnson said back in 1965, "We'll have those niggras [he said that] voting Democrat for 200 years!"
You're commiting one huge straw man fallacy, probably because you don't have a clue what Peterson is talking about. He understands hierarchies as something more broad and deeper than simple redistribution of goods, for crying out loud. It's obvious to anybody who is willing to listen to the man without some ridiculous preconceptions about him.
It's also, a proper understanding of hierarchies. Anybody with a brain immediately laughts at the idea of unhierarchical society. How such a society would agree on something, for example? Using some magical soul sharing techniques? By rolling a dice? Yeah, right, such a society faces bright future, for sure. By democratic voting? It's a hierarchy! Ideas shared by the majority are above all others. What so hard for you to understand?
You can't even free yourself from ridiculous notions you once have read about somewhere and now you're repeating them with thinking process of a parrot!
While the Babylonians certainly had multiple creaton myths, the one you cite from your website is not a creation myth at all, but an 1888 mistranslation.
The more correct title for the Cuthean Legend is "Naram-Sin vs the enemy hordes". Its a pseudo historical epic about a king who loses divine favour when the country is over-run by barbarians (monsters in some versions, human invaders in others). It is about order and chaos and one of two texts to mention Tiamat but uses those themes completely differently to the Babylonian Creation myth. So it does show the shallowness of Peterson's over-reliance on the Enuma Elish but not in the way your use of a massively out of date public domain source would imply.
"(It is not)" Argument by assertion. Fail. The idea that one or two of one's parents were "academics" makes one's upbringing somehow privileged is just silly. Fail. "As a gay man I can't relate to proven known-good strategies for success" because everything is seen through the lens of sexuality. Fail. Anderson Cooper, Michael Tilson-Thomas, the three known gay Washington Redskins, the transsexual Navy SEAL, most average gay guys... the road goes ever onward.
This is a very polemic depiction of Jordan B. Peterson's ideas. No Like.